The Conversation Manager

by Steven Van Belleghem

Conversation with Seth about the Conversation Manager

by Steven 2. April 2010 14:35

Yesterday, I had the honor to meet Seth Godin. After a short introduction, Stijn Vercamer told Seth about my book. An interesting and challenging conversation started.

Seth was wondering if the idea of a ongoing dialogue between brands and consumers was feasible. What if your brand receives thousands of messages per day. One of my suggestions was to outsource some of your conversations and questions about your brand to your brand fans and advocates. Stijn added that brands have the right to not-respond to certain questions of consumers (especially if tone of voice is lousy or very emotional).

At a certain point the discussion came to the case of Comcast, where Frank Eliason is responsible for the client dialogue. Seth mentioned that Frank used to answer all Twitter and Facebook messages by himself but today he is working with a team of 11 people who are joining the conversation. Seth’s question was: how far are companies willing to go in order to keep the dialogue up & running. Once it replaces a call center or at least part of a call center, it becomes interesting again for companies to invest in the relationship. At that point of the discussion, Seth had to leave, I’m wondering where it would have taken us if we could have some more time to chat.

What do you think? Anyone with any ideas on the implementation consequences of joining the conversation?

P.S. Thanks @Pietel for the picture

 

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4/2/2010 3:10:18 PM #

elidesc

Indeed a valuable comment by Seth Godin... The #dcm story (book + job description on this site) seems to offer a ready-to-implement conversation approach for companies at first sight. But what about multinationals with a worldwide customer spread? Even in a B2B environment, the conversation manager will at a certain moment in the transition to a conversation culture no longer be able to manage the conversation him/herself. Might be an idea for the sequel: "The Conversation Culture - And how The Conversation Manager should establish this culture..." Thanks for the inspiration, G!

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4/2/2010 3:53:27 PM #

Jeroen

Isn't this why all of this client dialogue and conversation initiatives are currently being integrated back into the call centers (social crm) ?
In the end the question that a CEO will ask is '...and do we make more profit now'. If not the dialogue will bleed to death real quickly IMHO

Jeroen

4/2/2010 7:00:41 PM #

Erik Duval

The difficulty of joining the conversation is giving up control (which you never had anyway) and scaling up...

That is not so different from changing the 'sage on the stage' model of education for a 'guide by the side' conversation. How do I scale that up to the 600 students I teach 'problem solving and design' in my engineering class? The only answer I can think of is to get out of the way and help your students help one another.

Cannot brands enable consumers to have a dialogue without getting in the way too?

Erik Duval

4/3/2010 8:08:18 AM #

steven van belleghem

Thanks for your thoughts on this. My feeling is that most companies want to jump to the last step in conversation management from day 1. If you look at the discussion we're having here it is about joining the conversation. But, joining it becomes easier if you looked at brand identication first, if you change the way you advertise, if you start to observe and if you facilitate conversations. Last step after thos is joining it.
Indeed, starting with joining is difficult. Look at the blog post I wrote a few days ago about brand identification, that's the key of conversation management.

steven van belleghem

4/3/2010 4:56:49 PM #

michel demoor

I think Seth is taking quite a rigid approach to marketing here. Marketing performance has never been about pleasing everybody all the time. It's not about all or nothing. It is a story of trying, trying harder and "as much as possible".

So when discussing social media as facilitators to start a conversation with your audience, I interpret this as emerging opportunities to do better. And every chance to do better must be taken. Step by step, like Steven discusses.

Please don't worry about "will we have to talk to all of our customers every day", because you're not there yet.

Anyway, this guy explains my point much better; Gary Vaynerchuk on "people are obsessed about scalability"

www.youtube.com/watch

michel demoor

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